Pharmacy professionals and
students gathered for a roundtable
discussion held by Pharmacy Times
during the Annual Meeting of the
American Association of Colleges of
Pharmacy in Orlando, Florida, in July
2007. The discussion was mediated
by David Trang, assistant professor of
pharmacy practice at the Feik School
of Pharmacy at the University of the
Incarnate Word (UIW), San Antonio,
Texas.
The purpose of the discussion was
to gauge the readiness of pharmacy
students for their future careers and
to determine if academia had prepared
them properly. Trang opened
the discussion by asking for comments
about the current state of
pharmacy. Michele Belsey, vice president
of college and professional
recruitment with Rite-Aid Corp, noted
the evolution of 2 types of pharmacists:
those who want to provide
more regular clinical care, such as
immunizations, and those who prefer
the daily activities involved in quality
assurance for each prescription. Nora
Stelter, PharmD, director of education
and training for the National
Association of Chain Drug Stores,
pointed out that both roles were
equally important.
Margie Snyder, PharmD, community
practice research fellow at the
University of Pittsburgh, said that
recent graduates tend to notice "a disconnect
from what is emphasized in
school and what students are truly
going to see in practice. The focus
should be on skill development and
problem solving in both arenas, both
dispensing and traditional clinical
work," she said.
George Downs, PharmD, dean
emeritus of the Philadelphia College
of Pharmacy, told of the limited
options available to pharmacy students
years ago: "One [option] was to
open their own pharmacy. The other
was, if you were a woman, you went
into hospital pharmacy." He went on
to laud the changes that have taken
place over the years. "We have seen
our students take on tremendous
roles that were never even imaginable,"
he said.
Trang directed the next topic
toward pharmacy students, asking if
they felt they were getting adequate
training to prepare them to practice
in the real world. Laura Cardwell
from UIW said that she would like
to see more problem-based learning
in today's classrooms, and Snyder
thought that students should focus
more on skill development. Jodie
Malhotra, PharmD, also an assistant
professor of pharmacy practice at
UIW, said that she was not sure
"whether we are preparing our students
early enough and educating
them on all the different opportunities
that they could potentially have."
Joseph Barone, PharmD, FCCP,
chairman of pharmacy practice at
Rutgers University (Piscataway, NJ),
was concerned that pharmacy students
may be feeling overwhelmed by
the many options open to them. He
believes that faculty should try to
become more involved in counseling
students to help them narrow down
their feasible choices so that they do
not exhaust themselves exploring
every opportunity offered to them.
Ben Thankachan, RPh, manager of
talent services and campus relations
for Wal-Mart, agreed with trying not
"to scare [students] away from what
their passion is." He also expressed
the importance of students not only
learning the clinical aspects of pharmacy,
but also the personal aspects—"patient skills, business skills, financial
skills, just interpersonal skills
with people," as well as cultural competency,
so they can be ready to serve
patients wherever they may find
themselves.
The topic of medication therapy
management (MTM) was brought up
as it related to current pharmacy students,
and the professionals were
asked if they felt that the pharmacy
schools were doing enough to prepare
their students for dealing with
their patients. Snyder reported that,
while there may not be a great financial
gain at the outset, seeing the
interaction between patients, caregivers,
and pharmacists in the clinic
she works is "really a beautiful thing."
As the pharmacists continue to work
on getting provider status and having
a consistent billing mechanism, she
said that the important thing was that
the patients were seeing their pharmacists
in an enhanced role as an
informative health care provider.
Andrew Peterson, PharmD, chair of
the department of pharmacy practice/
administration, Philadelphia College
of Pharmacy, expressed concern
that his students were apprehensive
about discussing reimbursement for
counseling services. "They think it is
part of their job to…counsel, whether
it is 1 minute or 20 minutes," he
said. Dr. Peterson suggested more
emphasis on helping students understand
that they should be compensated
for their knowledge and time.
This led into a discussion of the
phenomena of retail clinics, and
Trang asked the panel how they felt
they were helping
the progression
of
MTM. Barone
pointed out
the different
roles a pharmacist
plays
when working
within a
retail clinic
setting inside
a pharmacy.
"When I am
in the mini
clinic, I am
under a separate
agreement,
and
then my role
changes when
I work with
the pharmacy.
I am the clinic
pharmacist
within the
pharmacy, and
then when I
am outside
that clinic, I
am the 'pharmacist'
pharmacist."
He feared that students entering
these arenas might become confused
by the different roles they may
have to play in those settings.
Snyder pointed out that an important
part of patient relations is "figuring
out what [the patients] want." She
explained, "If you start out the conversation
when you sit down with a
patient and say ‘What do you need?,'
‘What...are you not getting?,' and
‘What can I do for you?,'" patients
become more at ease and more
responsive to receiving medication
information from their pharmacist.
Dr. Malhotra said in closing, "I think
what I have seen just being with
groups…is that it is continually
evolving. The majority of it is optimistic,
and positive changes [are
coming] for our patients and our
profession and health care overall."